The accident in Iowa, of which Jay posted, is a sad, terrible tragedy.

However, every so often there is good news like this report concerning
an accident here in North Florida yesterday where all that was
destroyed was some metal and plastic... instead of lives.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/16474292/detail.html

Kirk

> However, every so often there is good news like this report concerning
> an accident here in North Florida yesterday where all that was
> destroyed was some metal and plastic... instead of lives.
>
> http://www.news4jax.com/news/16474292/detail.html

Good deal.

Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is? The article says it has 2-seats, so
obviously not an "Aerostar".
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in
news:JZE1k.140097$TT4.132892@attbi_s22:

>> However, every so often there is good news like this report
>> concerning an accident here in North Florida yesterday where all that
>> was destroyed was some metal and plastic... instead of lives.
>>
>> http://www.news4jax.com/news/16474292/detail.html
>
> Good deal.
>
> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?

Yep.

Bertie

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:JZE1k.140097$TT4.132892@attbi_s22...
>
> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is? The article says it has 2-seats, so
> obviously not an "Aerostar".
>

An Aerostar can have two seats. So can an Arrow.

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:49:13 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote in
<JZE1k.140097$TT4.132892@attbi_s22>:

>Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?

http://www.newpiper.com/aircraft/arrow/

STANDARD EQUIPPED LIST PRICE $323,850

ENGINE
Manufacturer Lycoming Model

IO-360-C1C6

Horsepower 200 hp
Number of Cylinders 4

WEIGHTS
Maximum Take-off Weight 2,750 lbs/1,247 kg
Maximum Ramp Weight 2,758 lbs/1,251 kg
Standard Equipped Weight 1,798 lbs/817 kg
Standard Useful Load (a & b)

960 lbs/437 kg

a. Standard useful load is max ramp weight

minus standard equipped weight.

b. Useful load is indicated for a standard equipped aircraft.

DIMENSIONS
Wing Span 35.4 ft/10.8 m Length
24.7 ft/7.5 m
Height 7.9 ft/2.4 m
Wing Area 170 ft2/15.79 m2

FUEL AND OIL CAPACITY
Usable Fuel 72 gal/273 liters
MAXIMUM SPEED TAS
Gross Weight, Best Power Mixture
145 kts/269 km/h

CRUISING SPEEDS TAS
75% Power, 7,900 ft

137 kts/254 km/h
Best Power Mixture

CRUISING RANGE TAS
45 min. reserves at 55% power

880 nm/1,630 km

@ 9,000 ft, peak EGT mixture

STALL SPEED
Flaps Full Down 40° 53 kias/98 km/h

55 kcas/102 kn/h

SERVICE CEILING
(100fpm

16,200 ft/4,983 m

TAKE-OFF DISTANCE
Total over 50 ft Obstacle
1,600 ft/487 m

LANDING DISTANCE
Total over 50 ft Obstacle

1,520 ft/463 m

>>Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?
>
> http://www.newpiper.com/aircraft/arrow/
>
> STANDARD EQUIPPED LIST PRICE $323,850

Not a two seater, and not what's pictured in the article.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:qJI1k.194600
$yE1.48556@attbi_s21:

>>>Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?
>>
>> http://www.newpiper.com/aircraft/arrow/
>>
>> STANDARD EQUIPPED LIST PRICE $323,850
>
> Not a two seater, and not what's pictured in the article.

Dumm and dummer.


Bertie

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:49:13 GMT, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> > However, every so often there is good news like this report concerning
> > an accident here in North Florida yesterday where all that was
> > destroyed was some metal and plastic... instead of lives.
> >
> > http://www.news4jax.com/news/16474292/detail.html
>
> Good deal.
>
> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is? The article says it has 2-seats, so
> obviously not an "Aerostar".

Interesting. FAA registration database describes it as Piper PA-28R-201T, but
lists the engine as a "Mistral G-190". It's licensed as Experimental/Research
and Development, and is owned by Mistral Engines USA Inc. They're developing
rotary-engine aircraft powerplants. Swiss company, with a newly-opened office
in Florida.

http://www.mistral-engines.com/

Check the plane in the background...looks like an Arrow, and is probably the
aircraft that went down.

Experimental/R&D airplanes are generally prohibited from carrying non-crew, so I
suspect the company had to remove the back seats. Hence, the description (if
not the spelling :-) was correct...this was a two-seat Piper Arrow.

Ron Wanttaja

....and to make it even more confusing, the associated video calls it a
Warrior...

--
Best Regards,
Mike

http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel


<Kirk> wrote in message ...
> The accident in Iowa, of which Jay posted, is a sad, terrible tragedy.
>
> However, every so often there is good news like this report concerning
> an accident here in North Florida yesterday where all that was
> destroyed was some metal and plastic... instead of lives.
>
> http://www.news4jax.com/news/16474292/detail.html
>
> Kirk

"Mike Noel" > wrote in
:

> ...and to make it even more confusing, the associated video calls it a
> Warrior...
>

Could be worse. Used to be every airplane that made th enews was a piper
cub.


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?
>
> Yep.
>
> Bertie

Liar.

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>
> Dumm and dummer.
>
>
> Bertie

Well I see you, but where is your sock? Or are you just playing both parts
in the same message now?

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
>
> Could be worse. Used to be every airplane that made th enews was a piper
> cub.
>
>
> Bertie

But as you got older, you realized some were Cessna 150s?

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:JZE1k.140097$TT4.132892@attbi_s22...
>
> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is? The article says it has 2-seats, so
> obviously not an "Aerostar".
>

The reporter in the video said it was a Warrior.

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:A5L1k.2550$yi.2072
@newsfe13.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Liar.
>
>
>

Nope. I also know where Palatka is, coincidentally.





Bertie

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in
:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Dumm and dummer.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Well I see you, but where is your sock? Or are you just playing both
> parts in the same message now?
>
>
>

What did i tell you about laming? Bad k00k! Bad!

Bertie

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:87L1k.2564$yi.1479
@newsfe13.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Could be worse. Used to be every airplane that made th enews was a piper
>> cub.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> But as you got older, you realized some were Cessna 150s?
>

Yeh, good one there lamer boi.



Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:A5L1k.2550$yi.2072
> @newsfe13.lga:
>
>>
>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>>
>>> Bertie
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Nope. I also know where Palatka is, coincidentally.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bertie

Relevance?
Compulsive behavior again today.
You reply even when you have no relevant answer.

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:OlT1k.1823$D53.1277
@newsfe20.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:A5L1k.2550$yi.2072
>> @newsfe13.lga:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is?
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>>>
>>>> Bertie
>>>
>>> Liar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nope. I also know where Palatka is, coincidentally.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Relevance?


Absolutely.


Right over your head, though.


> Compulsive behavior again today.
> You reply even when you have no relevant answer.
>



Nope.


Bertie
>
>

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:OlT1k.1823$D53.1277
> @newsfe20.lga:
>
>>
>
>
> Nope.
>
>
> Bertie
>>
>>
>

More make believe. Did you over dose today?

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:xNU1k.3438$QI2.1755
@newsfe23.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:OlT1k.1823$D53.1277
>> @newsfe20.lga:
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> More make believe. Did you over dose today?
>
>
>

Ahhh, Meds lames.


Excellent.



Bertie

"Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:w3V1k.3455$QI2.1189
@newsfe23.lga:

>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:xNU1k.3438$QI2.1755
>> @newsfe23.lga:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ahhh, Meds lames.
>>
>>
>> Excellent.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
>
> At least a little comprehension. Are you waking up?
>
>

Not yet.

Hang on while I grb a cup of coffee. I already ****ed he past two all over
you.


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
.. .
> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@cox.^net> wrote in news:xNU1k.3438$QI2.1755
> @newsfe23.lga:
>
>>
>>
>
> Ahhh, Meds lames.
>
>
> Excellent.
>
>
>
> Bertie

At least a little comprehension. Are you waking up?

on 6/5/2008 5:48 AM Steven P. McNicoll said the following:
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:JZE1k.140097$TT4.132892@attbi_s22...
>> Anyone know what a "Piper Aero" is? The article says it has 2-seats, so
>> obviously not an "Aerostar".
>>
>
> The reporter in the video said it was a Warrior.

And we know TV reporters always get aviation facts right...

"Rich Ahrens" > wrote in message
ouse.com...
>
> And we know TV reporters always get aviation facts right...
>

About as often as they get non-aviation facts right.